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HistoryStudent 09-06-2009 04:36 PM

SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
http://www.pcgs.com/prices/PriceGuid...+Gaudens+%2420

Watch them explode WHEN the gold hits $1200 to $1500 soon.

:36_3_12::36_3_12:

madfranks 09-06-2009 10:44 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Saints - I love em. They've been doing exceptionally well, considering you used to be able to buy common dates close to spot. Had I more money over the years to put into AU/AG, Saints would have been my #1 choice. You can't go wrong.

foolsgold 09-06-2009 11:08 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
I noticed gainsville is not selling any common date certified double eagles.

Few on fleabay too.

What gives HS?

Are they anticipating a price run up?

RoyalBeluga 09-06-2009 11:14 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1907812)
I noticed gainsville is not selling any common date certified double eagles.

Few on fleabay too.

What gives HS?

Are they anticipating a price run up?

All over the UK media are advertisements to buy your gold, tv, papers, radio, they're even camping inside stores now 'roll up, roll up, cash paid for your gold, no amount too big or small'

Something is definitely being anticipated and I don't think it's a price drop! :36_1_30:

HistoryStudent 09-06-2009 11:43 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1907812)
I noticed gainsville is not selling any common date certified double eagles.

Few on fleabay too.

What gives HS?

Are they anticipating a price run up?

My thoughts are quoting Richard Maybury

Early Warning Report

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=...ry&view=videos

He thinks that GOLD is really going up and NUMISMATICS especially SAINTS
because they are like ART mixed with ANTIQUES mixed with MOB RULE mixed with authenticated GOLD in slabs - they will go UP 5 to 10 times more than gold - that's what he thinks.

(like my CHARTS for MS65 SAINTS in 1989 - common dates went to to $4000 when spot was only about $400 or 10 times MORE. SO - Imagine if GOLD hit say $3000 to $5000 spot and SAINTS in MS65 hit 10 times more! Who really knows HOWEVER!:36_3_12::111:)

Can you IMAGINE having a MS65 Saint common date and asking $50,000.00 for it?

The CHINESE ALREADTY have figured it out!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...-printing.html

thrifty_bob 09-07-2009 05:08 PM

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Yeah, I think the old Saints and Libs will do just fine. They costed a few dollars more than the bullion when I bought them, but it looks like in the longer run they are appreciating much more quickly. The are prettier and have a taste of history to go with them, too. Anyway, at absolute worst case, they still are at least worth the gold in them.

andial 09-07-2009 06:59 PM

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I'm getting that sweat on my brow (like the one you get when you lose money, or an opportunity) looking at those prices. $1,700 for MS 62 saints?

eat_beef 09-07-2009 09:53 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Those are 'average sale prices', not buy prices. And remember the avg has the hucksters like Blanchard, Swiss America, etc. and their outrageous prices figured in.

HistoryStudent 09-07-2009 10:40 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Wait till they add another GRAND to the price then.

:111::111:

Master_Ho 09-08-2009 01:26 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1907867)
Can you IMAGINE having a MS65 Saint common date and asking $50,000.00 for it?

My only question is - how many loaves of bread will that buy at that point? I mean, the dollar, should it be toast..........

My other fear, as many here, is that the art values will be tossed aside for the sheer gold metal value if things get that bad.......

So, over the years, I bought things I liked which included some Saints........*s*

I keep hearing around here that "gold is gold", and there IS a truth to it..........but not to someone with real heart, eye and appreciateion of art and history.

I seem to find myself following your posts these days........not stalking you but it seems yours are some of the best around here......so some of my "Thanks" are big "Thumbs up" in agreement!!

Thanks for your posts......they make coming here worthwhile!

Cheers!

HistoryStudent 09-08-2009 09:24 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1909307)
My only question is - how many loaves of bread will that buy at that point? I mean, the dollar, should it be toast..........

My other fear, as many here, is that the art values will be tossed aside for the sheer gold metal value if things get that bad.......

So, over the years, I bought things I liked which included some Saints........*s*

I keep hearing around here that "gold is gold", and there IS a truth to it..........but not to someone with real heart, eye and appreciateion of art and history.

I seem to find myself following your posts these days........not stalking you but it seems yours are some of the best around here......so some of my "Thanks" are big "Thumbs up" in agreement!!

Thanks for your posts......they make coming here worthwhile!

Cheers!


The wisdom and common sense you exhibit is bottom line. We probably should NOT think of the falling US Dollar as value in anything.

The last major hyperinflations in the US, France, and Germany over the last few hundred years have made individual food products go up some 250 times.

So Imagine a loaf of bread which now costs $2.00 on sale selling for $500.00!

Imagine food, energy, insurance, and the things you need to live going up many times in current US dollar amounts. That's why physical PMs may be good to exchange into the new currency going forward.

That's what all nations do - they make a NEW currency.


:signs14::signs14:

It appears that the US FED will eventually overprint and tip the scales into hyperinflation in the next few years - say, within four years.

foolsgold 09-08-2009 09:27 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Master_Ho (Post 1909307)
My only question is - how many loaves of bread will that buy at that point? I mean, the dollar, should it be toast..........

If the dollar is toast I won't need loaves of bread.:signs14::10_1_19:

HistoryStudent 09-08-2009 12:47 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1909752)
If the dollar is toast I won't need loaves of bread.:signs14::10_1_19:

No you will need the NEW currency TPTB tell YOU to take.

Like you I do not eat much bread - turns to sugar too fast and those stinkin' carbs are terrible for the OLD handsome figure!

Keep smiling - :111::111:

Master_Ho 09-08-2009 06:18 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1909745)
The wisdom and common sense you exhibit is bottom line. We probably should NOT think of the falling US Dollar as value in anything.

The last major hyperinflations in the US, France, and Germany over the last few hundred years have made individual food products go up some 250 times.

So Imagine a loaf of bread which now costs $2.00 on sale selling for $500.00!

Imagine food, energy, insurance, and the things you need to live going up many times in current US dollar amounts. That's why physical PMs may be good to exchange into the new currency going forward.

That's what all nations do - they make a NEW currency.


:signs14::signs14:

It appears that the US FED will eventually overprint and tip the scales into hyperinflation in the next few years - say, within four years.


Exactly my feeling (except I think four is generous - I give it 2)......and has been my feeling since I made my first ever public predictions back in November 2005 (which all came true exactly as I said)........and a group of people gathered under my wing, got out of the markets and banks, and bought gold around $650-750, silver too........<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Needless to say - none of them are losing any sleep at night lately..........when the stock market was down 40-60%, we were up 30% on PMs (give or take, all rough numbers)....and THAT was before last week's action....so we were, in a sense, 70% ahead of the masses at that point, more so now.<o:p></o:p>
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((Like the Chinese - I offer my advice if asked, but otherwise, reason things out, take a position that I know is correct and quietly wait.......I listen to others as they tell me how screwed up I am, but I trust myself! It paid off for me in 1979-80............its paid off for me now! My mother's husband, a VP for Smith-Barney & later, UBS, is livid that I was right! In fact, at a Christmas party, all these VPs were sitting at a formal dinner, commiserating with each other "How could we have known?? No one knew!".....and after two hours of this crap, my mother stood up and said - "I knew someone who knew........and **looking at her husband** no one would listen! **dead silence**...*LOL*))<o:p></o:p>
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But I fancy myself a world person, having grown up in the US but also other countries, more so than a national one.........and I am aware of places where bread does, indeed go gold.........3 grams a loaf, and no paper money!!!<o:p></o:p>
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THIS is not America now, nor anytime soon - but it certainly the direction this Empire is sinking towards as it deteriorates into a third world nation (how sad for America, a young nation so filled with promise)........and its something everyone on GIM should see, if they have not.........<o:p></o:p>
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THIS is real.......not the MAD MAX future the young turks around here love to fantasize about.........<o:p></o:p>
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HS - Again - thank you for your posts........I often think, if I could just follow certain posters rather than threads, I might learn more! *lol*

Master_Ho 09-08-2009 06:19 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolsgold (Post 1909752)
If the dollar is toast I won't need loaves of bread.:signs14::10_1_19:

You gonna eat paper????



Well, its toast..........try butter and jam on it! :biggrin:

Master_Ho 09-08-2009 06:20 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1910150)
those stinkin' carbs are terrible for the OLD handsome figure!

Keep smiling - :111::111:


I think Old and handsome are an oxymoron.........

I'd settle for old and breathing.

HistoryStudent 10-05-2009 01:56 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Old and handsome checking in here - OXYMORON II -

LOOKS like the SAINTS will really heat up this week I'm expecting a $3000.00 plus on common dates retail.

:Surrender:

foolsgold 10-05-2009 01:59 PM

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We love you just the way you are HS.....Keep the good news comin.

Martian_Time_slip 10-05-2009 04:54 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Meh, I'll have to buy one on the flip side, when everyone tosses their PM for global paper....

Golden Eagle 10-05-2009 05:07 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian_Time_slip (Post 1955888)
Meh, I'll have to buy one on the flip side, when everyone tosses their PM for global paper....

Ditto. I'm riding light this wave cycle. Roughly 80% gold, 20% bankster bucks.

obilly 10-05-2009 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Eagle (Post 1955900)
Ditto. I'm riding light this wave cycle. Roughly 80% gold, 20% bankster bucks.

90% GOLD, 10% FRN'S

Master_Ho 10-06-2009 03:03 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1955660)
Old and handsome checking in here - OXYMORON II -

LOOKS like the SAINTS will really heat up this week I'm expecting a $3000.00 plus on common dates retail.

:Surrender:

From your mouth to God's ear!!

rodzm 10-06-2009 03:08 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
I recently bought a MS62 1908 No Motto Saint. She's Godless but damn she is pretty. $1530...good price????

BeeYourself 10-06-2009 03:22 AM

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Quote:

My other fear, as many here, is that the art values will be tossed aside for the sheer gold metal value if things get that bad.......
On the street no one will care about collector value.

Master_Ho 10-06-2009 03:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodzm (Post 1956773)
I recently bought a MS62 1908 No Motto Saint. She's Godless but damn she is pretty. $1530...good price????

I'd say it was......you might have clipped a few bucks off shopping around - but then you would have spent that in the running around itself.......

And the key to numismatics is not just the rarity, pop, or grade.

Within a 100 MS 62s of the same coin - 5-10% will "pop" - the secret is in the strike.

SO - resonsable price for a coin you seem to love..........

Tuck her away - cause in the next few years - she will make you bucks!

Cheers!

Master_Ho 10-06-2009 03:52 AM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeYourself (Post 1956785)
On the street no one will care about collector value.


So say the experts who have - no doubt lived thru it themselves and have experienced that!

Or can quote hundreds of examples - few lasting a few weeks.

Now - let's get real - there will ALWAYS be people with money..........ALWAYS......

and there has always been value in rare items - ALWAYS....

and there as little that is as rare, or valueable, as gold and silver coins........which, unlike bullion can never be duplicated (faked, sure) because they stopped making them long ago.

Certainly, put some of your money into bullion....coins to live on!

But the facts are that the last time we saw anything like this numismatics made (in general) 4-5 times what the metal itself did (PM stocks did better than them both.)

SO - the smart investor will put something away to live on, and then deversify into the either, or both, the PM stocks or semi & numsimatic area!

HOWEVER - I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!

Cause if THAT time comes, I will buy every damn of those older coins my bullion can afford!!!!

People will always invest in rare things from history.

Always.

Cheers!

HistoryStudent 10-06-2009 03:48 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Human Nature Never Changes

Study 6000 years of Human Nature

Oil Still runs the world for a long while

Gold and Silver are really the only REAL money

Fundamentals will rule out in the END


Those 5 rules are from Zapata George - google him.


That said note that:


Human nature VALUES antiques art rare things that are authencated gold (and silver) and assets that will not burn - come soon or sooner.

So what do you think fills the BILL - logically?

Duh Duh Duh - if you have a mind over 70 I.Q. you might think

old antique rare authenticated gold - DUH DUH DUH?

PCGS or NGC saints?

YOU WIN WIN WIN :wink::111:

HistoryStudent 10-06-2009 03:53 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Back when gold was $500 in 1989 common dated MS65 SAINTS hit $3,400.

Study history right?

Imagine if gold was say $1,500 - in 2010 - what would common dated MS65 Saints be?

$3000 $6000 $9000 or maybe $10,500 - who knows sell into it!

Master_Ho 10-06-2009 05:35 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1957761)
Human Nature Never Changes

Study 6000 years of Human Nature

Oil Still runs the world for a long while

Gold and Silver are really the only REAL money

Fundamentals will rule out in the END


Those 5 rules are from Zapata George - google him.


That said note that:


Human nature VALUES antiques art rare things that are authencated gold (and silver) and assets that will not burn - come soon or sooner.

So what do you think fills the BILL - logically?

Duh Duh Duh - if you have a mind over 70 I.Q. you might think

old antique rare authenticated gold - DUH DUH DUH?

PCGS or NGC saints?

YOU WIN WIN WIN :wink::111:


IQ over 70???

I figured if you had the IQ to BREATH this was obvious!

Apparently not.

Master_Ho 10-06-2009 05:54 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1957775)
Back when gold was $500 in 1989 common dated MS65 SAINTS hit $3,400.

Study history right?

HISTORY!?!?!?

WHO HAS TIME FOR HISTORY!?!?!?!

American Idol is back on!
Oh, and isn't it football season?


:banghead:


Maybe those of us who study history and the history of currencies should just give up!


:s10:

Its like all those experts on finanical TV shows talking about gold.

Where were they when the markets crashed and gold moved up.

Same old voices with the same old crap - prejudice against metals cause once you buy they can not make profit off of the trades and changes they make.

When we buy gold and silver we are telling the central bankers and politicians.........."have fun playing with the monopoly money - MY money is off the table - when you are done, we'll see if I want your paper, why and for how much!"

Brokers (the people who pay for the Financial stations thru ads) make money when you do.........

and when you don't.........

and when you trade.......

and often when you do nothing..........

NO ONE IS MAKING ONE OFF OF ME - EXCEPT ME!!!!

**FONDLES GOLD**


:rofl:


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oldmansmith 10-06-2009 06:02 PM

Re: SAINTS smell the dollar BLOOD in the water
 
This is the farking headline on Yahoo, FOOTBALL!

"Flagged while thanking God
Oakland's Chris Johnson went to his knees in thanks after making a great interception.."


Bread and Circuses, not a peep about Gold's new highs.

Hold on to those Saints (And those Liberties!!!)


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